Oz

The 10/22's weakest link is the trigger. You can spend some time with some sandpaper and make BIG improvements on your own. $3. If you're looking for a big step up; competition quality... it gets interesting -and expensive. I've tried a few different 10/22 triggers and am a bit of a trigger aficionado. I like a 2-stage and the Kidd is a stand-out. The price isn't for the feint of heart. Add a couple of options and you're over $300. Makes a $200 trigger look like a bargain, eh? http://www.coolguyguns.com/Two-Stage-Trigger_p_10.html Oz

The Paki ammo is not corrosive. But it is berdan primed, so reloading isn't super interesting. But reloading fluted brass isn't interesting to me either --so the Paki ammo is perfect for HK's; leaving it on the ground. I have a PTR-915. I was thinking longer term about the .22 conversion kit however, since I have G3 and Cetme parts kits and will be bending flats next week. Back in March of 2011, Century Arms was selling this ammo for ~25¢/round with free shipping over $500. Sold out now of course. http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=84136.0 Oz

Thanks everyone!

Sorry... I didn't answer your question directly. Copes had the Paki ammo. I think they were asking $100 per can of 250 and that included shipping. The gun shop next door has it for $100 ($110 if you ask nicely, $100 if you wheel and deal). I found a guy selling it on a local classified for $90/can. I talked him down to $85 per can of 250 because I bought a case of it. But not everyone's as good of a negotiator as I am :grin: So maybe it's more like 1200 rounds to break even for the non-negotiator? :confused: Oz

I subtracted the cost of the .22 ammo, cause that's only fair. I've been buying the Paki Berdan primed stuff for $90/250 rounds. I'm not a fan of reloading the fluted cases, so I don't pick up HK used brass and that Paki ammo has performed flawlessly in my HK. Anyway; 1500 rounds = 6 cans x $90 = $540. Subtract $48 for 1500 rounds of .22 ammo. That's just a bit less than $500 I guess. But add shipping to the conversion kit. It's about 1500 rounds to break even. Oz

I've been interested in setting up a faster twist barrel and trying that super-heavy super sniper .22 ammo from Aguila. We have 200 yards at our range. But with standard ammo at 100 yards, the groups haven't been tight enough to justify trying 200 yards yet. I've heard so many mixed comments on that super heavy stuff. Usually those that keyhole, don't have a fast enough twist.

I've always thought this to be an interesting solution. But for $500! ACK! By my calculations, I could shoot over 1500 rounds of 308 for the same cost of shooting the 22. I'd like one because it's unique and nobody else is going to be shooting .22 out of their HK's. Just don't look at it for a cost savings. Oz

I've seen 'training kits' for HK G3's/91's and Cetme 308 rifles. It's an interesting bolt and barrel liner solution. I like it. Just not willing to pay the $500 cost. That got me thinking... has anyone ever seen a .22 conversion for any flavor of 308 AR? (DPMS/Armalite) Oz

A thread on 308AR.com sent me over. 22LR is such a great round, I have a bunch of 'em, purpose built. I posted up my dedicated 22 AR already http://tactical22.net/forum/ar-15-dedicated-22lr-complete-firearms/lar-grizzly-ops-22/?topicseen and am having a good time seeing everyone else's .22's.

Thanks! Good to be here. I was directed here from 308ar.com --I'm still learning the site and poking around. I like what I see. Oz

This is my LAR Grizzly OPS-22 dedicated AR 22. This thing is a *bargain*. Retail is $649. It sports their high-end LAR OPS-4 side-charge upper. It's a CMMG bolt converted to work with the side-charge upper. It includes an LAR Grizzly "Logo" free float hand guard, and a nice flash hider. It uses their standard AR-15 lower and lower parts kit. If you know LAR Grizzly, they OEM uppers and lowers for something like 40 of the most well known AR-15 manufacturers in the country. I popped on an inexpensive scope, bi-pod and a fore grip. It's a smooth shooter. With the adjustable stock, it fits my 8 YO perfectly and is one of his favorites. Move the stock and it fits me perfectly and is as fun as it is easy on the wallet. Oz