Mr. Jones

The mark 3 from NCstar was actually the sight I am considering buying. Does it seem to be decent? I see mixed reviews around the net, but it has what I want for the price. The reticule of the Mark 3 is also exactly the type I am most comfortable with and always want in my optics. I had considered QD mounts to switch between devices, my only question was whether the swap effects the accuracy of the optic. Like, every time I switch, do I need to re- zero, or will they stay accurate due to the mounting characteristics of picatinny/weaver systems? If they stay accurate enough, that's the answer to my problems. I was trying to find the best middle ground of speed, view, and accuracy- if i can just switch easily between scope, dot, and reflex- so much the better. I also saw one rifle with a 3-9x scope mounted on top of a tri rail and a red dot mounted on the side of it. I guess they could choose the type of optic to use on the fly. While it looked a little funky, if something like that would work, I can see where it could be implemented.

While in the city this weekend we stopped by a few gunneries as payback to my wife for all the times I spent wandering aimlessly around beall's and JCpenney's. While I handled a great deal of firearms, and wiped quite a bit of drool from many glass counters, I was particularly looking at Sig rifles. I plan on purchasing a 556 sometime within the year, and i just wanted to get a sneak peek. In one shop I cam across the P556, a pistol version of the full sized version, and I think I may have experienced my first gun boner. While it is technically a pistol, it is more realistically a full sized Sig556 with no stock and a 10" barrel (down from the 16" barrel on the full sized classic). To me it feels like a thicker, heavier MP5 with a decidedly larger magazine of course. The P556 accepts standard AR mags and is functionally identical to it's bigger sisters, even featuring the 3 stage gas system that sets the 556 apart. I am dead set on the full sized 556, but this thing is a strong contender.. it's just too damn cool to have a 556 pistol with all the same feature of a Sig rifle. It's a specialty item to be sure, but a damned cool one. Which brings me to the 522 SWAT. After buying my Classic 522 (based on it looking like a 550) I saw the SWAt with the quad rail foregrip and experienced slight buyers remorse. The swiss style grips on mine are comfy and do have 3 rails which is really more than enough, but the SWAT offers so much more options for customization, since 2/3 of the rifle is covered in picatinny. Well, I have been able to put my remorse aside. The SWAT is a great rifle, don't get me wrong; but it is just too much for a 22. The quad rail made the rifle very front heavy and there was nothing installed yet. Also the 552 is not a floating barrel, so the foregrip rides on a fake gas block, which allows the rails to move slightly. It is the same way on my classic swiss fore, and mounting sights or lasers is out of the question because of this. So while the SWAT really does look cool, I think it is a bit much, and losing the ability to reliably mount sights on the rails takes away a lot of their usefulness. Which brings me to the 556 SWAT, which is all I want for christmas, you can keep the two front teeth! This thing is such a graceful beast, I don't know how to explain it. It looks heavy, like the last rifle you want to carry; but it is a surprising 8 pounds, only a little more than average. When shouldering the rifle however, it feels very light and well balanced and the stock iron sights are perfect for me already. My only issue with the rifle, just as the 522, is the charge handle to receiver rail clearance. While it is generally easy to grab and cycle the bolt, you have to be careful hanging lasers and flashlights off the side of the receiver above the handle; they can create a snag or cutting hazard. Here an AR style charge handle would excel, or simply angling the charge handle itself. Still, only a minor and probably rare inconvenience. Still have yet to shoot one, but I can tell just by holding her that it was meant to be.

I was just going to make the same post. I too got my hands on one this weekend, planning to pick up a pair for the wife and myself. It's a solid pistol, and sure doesn't feel like a .22, and it's not much smaller than the Sig 1911, but a little lighter. I did not get to shoot one yet, but it's a Sig, so I am sure it has above standard performance at the least. I need to thank whoever decided to produce a pink version, it's what sold my wife on them; thereby allowing me to buy another pistol :beer: I also got to inappropriately touch a Sig Combat P226 and OMG OMG 3 other Sig rifles that I will be writing about in a bit.

I did not know about the different dot sizes available, I can see where it would have helped a lot; at 50yd my current dot was maybe .5" larger than the bull. I will say though, for a budget optic, the dot is perfectly rounded as far as I can see, and there is very little glare when the brightness settings are utilized. Unfortunately, I think my problem is more with the "floating" parallax effect I get with the dot. I am more used to having at least a crosshair to help level the rifle and form a distance relation calculation. With the red dot, I don't seem to have that ability (yet). Seems to me, the idea is to point the dot at your target and ensure the dot is centered in the glass- but with no reference markings, where exactly is center, ya know? How high do I aim the dot above target to account for drop, and then once again, how do I know the dot is really centered anyway? I know I need a lot more practice and experience with them for sure. From my initial impression, though, it seems like red dots are more geared towards fast reflex shooting and require extensive practice to learn the relation of your specific dot device to your specific weapon's ballistics characteristics. Or Since there are no markings to specify 0 or technical representations of center, you have to simply build an intimate relationship with your setup through training. This is as opposed to a proper scope where you have definite reference markings and a definite known MOA- ie. once zeroed, you know that 1 click is worth "X" and that one mil dot is worth "X." Ideally you could pick up any rifle that was properly set up, and shoot with great precision because the scope is designed to function in such a universally usable manner. Just as in my experience at the range; were the scope functioned well in long range, pin point accuracy, the red dot excelled in putting bullets on target more quickly, but with slightly less accuracy. When it's all said and done, the dot did very well, I was still able to make a 2" group at 50yd, and I couldn't even see the bull; I just knew it was somewhere in the center of the red circle. I'm just whining because I am used to the type of scope my wife was using. I just need practice, which is more time shooting, so it's all good. Put it this way- My wife can take aim, account for elevation and windage, and shoot the nuts off a fly at 50 yards. I can lift my rifle from the bench and finish him off before his nuts hit the ground. ;D

The most effective way to keep herons at bay is to place a Heron statue near your pond. They are extremely territorial and will not land if they see another "heron" already there. To stop nearly everything else, a floating alligator decoy does the trick. Most animals can spot their predators more easily than they can spot prey. Even a toy alligator will work as long as it is shaped somewhat realistically. Another way to keep almost any bird or small animal at bay is to play recorded owl, hawk, falcon, or eagle screeching. While it's hell on your own ears, it scares the crap out of every animal that hears it as well. Dont try to use airsoft or BB guns, thrown rocks, firecrackers, or anything that will anger or frighten a heron. They are on of the few birds that will attack you at the drop of a hat; an they can potentially blind or even kill you. If you plan to use such a method, make sure you kill it- they will wait for you to come back out of your house and swoop in for revenge. They're very mean birds. I'm sure it's not politically correct or environmentally friendly, but most people I know just shoot the damn things and be done with them. Maybe it's illegal or objectionable, but they regularly attack and blind household pets and even children. Personally, I call a spade a spade- they are dangerous, troublesome, nuisance creatures, just like many of the other aggressive and troublesome animals on the endangered list. I never saw the purpose of preserving an animal that poses a threat to humans. Sure, save the ecosystem; but telling a person they cannot defend their property, livelihood, and their own body simply because the offending creature is endangered.. well, bubba, it's possible they are endangered because they are dangerous.

Went to the range today with the Mrs. and had a nice 4 hour session. We took all four of our .22s and started a friendly competition regarding accuracy. She was using a Ranger bolt action with a 4x rimfire scope. Not to trash her rifle, but everything about it screams $75. christmas season value package .22 Still, it proved itself to be a contender, and I approve. I of course shouldered my Sig 522 with a walmart Center Point red/green dot. We had no set number of shots, or rules in general. Just shoot the middle of whatever target we hung. I got my ass handed to me at 50yards, which I expected. I mentioned before I just can't see that far with this red dot, but I still had a 2-3" group. Mrs Jones on the other hand, had one hole in her target after about 30 rounds, and not because she was missing. I tried her rifle as well, and it was dead on. After I whined like a little girl, we pulled back to 25 yards, and I could actually see numbers and words again. I pulled off a 1" group, eventually removing the entire bull; once again, Mrs Jones got bored and started shooting the center out of the little target. You know, the one on the corner that has the ID number and info, the one that's like maybe 1" in diameter? Yeah. :-[ Once again, We switched and so did the results. Our final "official contest" was using the big, blue, human silhouette pistol targets. Once again, she got bored after removing the X and shot the copyright symbol off the corner of the target. This stage culminated in the true test of marksmanship- drawing a smiley face on the target head. We both scored equally as well, although I think mine looked like Waylon Jennings, which is worth at least ten bonus points. So here's what I learned, and tell me if I am wrong: Scopes = accuracy, sometimes at the cost of speed (target acquisition) Red dots = speed of target acquisition at the cost of accuracy. Best for CQB? Iron Sight = right in the middle of this concept Even from a stable, benchrest position, I could not hit my own holes dead on with the dot, yet I could do so with her scope. I also attempted to prove this concept by finishing the day with a rapid fire, quick target acquisition test. I Taped up 2 papers that displayed 4 sighting targets (2" diamonds) each for a total of 8 individual targets. I then proceeded to shamelessly testing the limits of the rifle and myself, otherwise known as showing off. ;D All bell ringing aside, I went through 4 mag changes and one drum, for a total of 150 consecutive rounds. During the time I went as fast as the rifle and I could (the range was relatively empty by this time with nobody nearby- I wouldn't pull this stunt otherwise). I also transitioned once from offhand, crouch, prone, crouch, and offhand with each mag change. I was able to quickly acquisition and execute each diamond in succession for the duration of fire, without a single miss. Mind you it was only 25yd with a rifle, but it was a fun display nonetheless. So there it is in a nutshell it seems- the red dot was great for fast target sighting and very accurate for this purpose, but it could not compete with the tack driving accuracy of even a low budget rimfire scope. Either way, I am determined more than ever to invest in a 4x or possibly 3x-9x scope for the Sig 522. The fast action shooting was fun, but it has it's place.

That is a good point, and truly I doubt I would ever need to adjust them under normal usage. But it's kinda like having headlight defrosters on your luxury sedan. You may never use them, barely ever think about them; but when you go to show it off to a friend, the first thing you show them is the fancy headlights ;D

pre-edit; i should clarify that the individuals I am ranting about do not necessarily make up the majority of airsoft players. The sport actually looks quite fun and exciting, and I may be giving it a try sometime this next year. There just seems to be a fairly large contingent of those who i feel overstep the simulation's bounds, which I will explain in the following post. I didn't want it to sound like I was coming down on airsoft in general, just some overzealous individuals. I have seen a little about LE using airsoft for training, and think it's a great idea. Just as was stated, the weapons are getting to be serious replicas. But this is kind of core to my point- I can see law enforcement or security personal using all the other tactical and protection gear to it's fullest. For these guys, this training might save more than their own lives, and being familiar and comfortable with all that expensive gear is life or death. I can even see where it might interest and prepare kids for a career in law enforcement or military, But for a group of teenagers playing capture the flag, it's just crazy how far they are taking it; to spend maybe $5000+ on just gear and rigging before their time of actual duty comes; just makes my head spin. Then again, I am also the guy who (as an adult) is very self conscious not to impersonate a soldier. Sure, I go hiking and hunting with my surplus gear, make use of a duty belt and holster with mag pouches for my 30 rounders, and I love the weaponry like an oily, naked, woman; but I would die of embarrassment if someone saw me in full Mil Spec gear, molle body armor, and god forbid, MARPAT with an EGA anywhere on my person. I think that's what got me started on this rant, was seeing the kids wearing full on marine recon gear with ega, badge, rank, nametape, dog tags, the whole nine yards. You earn these things, they are not toys or a game.

Unfortunately, I have yet to find a compatable flip up front sight, can barely find a front sight at all... Problem is the mount: Here is the same front sight I keep finding anywhere I look: http://www.topgunsupply.com/sig-sauer-522-sight-set.html I have issue with these sights already, with no way to adjust the front height and the rear sight adjustment is freefloating with no repeatable settings or "clicks" The Sig 556 iron sights will work on this rifle. They are spring loaded flip up with some pretty intuitive controls for front and rear. But at $250 it's a little beyond what I really wanted to pay for iron sights. Still, I feel naked without them.

Is this from that new DVD series "Girls Gone Retard?" ;D Too bad, she had a nice crack.

I've only been hit with the spring loaded models, and only cheap pistols at that. Though I imagine there is a good reason for all the facemasks I see. I've got a 1911 and a 92FS replica that I primarily used to train my cat and shoot my wife in the butt, so obviously they don't hit very hard. My wife on the other hand is decidedly more deadly :bang: All this talk about it does make me want to try out a more powerful rifle. Maybe a Remington 700 or a Dragonov so I can snipe my buddy in the ass from 4 houses away. It will have to wait, though; I am saving to buy a Sig 556 at the moment (and not the airsoft version :grin: ).

Looks like a very nice range, and $60 a year is awesome for a private club. The closest club to me is over $300 for the first year and a little less after that. An yes, bullet holes in the roof is not cool at all. It shows that the shooter has absolutely no education or respect. We just had a tragedy where a little boy got killed because someone was firing recklessly in a lightly wooded suburban area. An acre of trees wont even stop a pellet gun. Now we are facing a county ordinance prohibiting the discharge of a firearm on any plot of land smaller than ten acres. >:( My two biggest firearms peeves: 1. firing into the air or blindly/recklessly at nothing. 2. allowing the firearm to point in the direction of people.

Really good looking rifle! I think the Colts are sharp, very true to their big sister's designs (AR-15 proper). I cannot imagine going through such a process to simply possess a firearm. Reminds me again not to take my firearms rights for granted. I can say this, wile I am not as crazed and fanatic as some gun control protesters, I am the kind of man that will take to the hills if my government tries to revoke or restrain our firearm rights much further. The Constitution allowed for the possession of firearms and the forming of militia to ensure that the American people could defend themselves, not only against their enemies, but against their own government. The same government that is slowly stripping the people of every constitutional right. We just had a 70 year old man arrested and charged for homicide (and may be elevated to capitol murder) after he shot and killed an intruder that had beaten him with a hammer and left him for dead while he robbed his home. And this is in Texas, where we arguably have the most lenient firearms regulations in the country. True, the old man shot the intruder in the back (of the head). Personally, I imagine it was hard to see well after the intruder had crushed one of the old man's temples/eye socket. I would have shot the thug in the groin.

I can see buying airsoft for the fun value like you are talking about and even for the "cool factor" of having a fairly real looking combat rifle on display (I would buy a 249SAW in a frikkin heartbeat if it was less than $300). I can understand, and enjoy simulated operations.. would love to try it out, in fact. It just seems like it has grown out of proportion. During my perusal of many airsoft sites, I have come across a lot of blogs, videos, and reviews; and cost of your primary weapon is the least of it. I've seen a multitude of people who are going out in full tactical gear; ok, I can dig that- it's made for combat. What I don't get is that a large portion of them are strapping on MOLLE plate carriers, bio and chemical weapons kits, kevlar helmets with full nightvision, 40 pound assault packs full of even more combat survival gear. You end up with someone that looks like they are ready for combat deployment into a hot LZ by some nameless security contractor... armed with rubber bullets. How many thousands of dollars worth of equipment does it really take to simulate? You could get the same level of realism by replacing those $100 dummy claymores (you carry around unused, in the bottom of your Blackhawk! 3 day assault pack) with two $1.50 Acme bricks painted OD green. Be sure to "point towards the enemy." ??? And while I'm ranting- nametapes and unit badges? seriously? Something is wrong about a 15 year old boy, who is apparently a Gunnery Sergeant ::) wearing ACU MARPAT with "Ghost Face Killa" emblazoned on the nametape. But I digress. I'm sure there's a great number of these guys that could chew me apart in simulation. That's cool, they could do it no matter what type of gear I had (and probably no matter what type of gear they had). I'll just keep trying in my surplus, Viet Nam era ALICE tac vest and BDUs. Maybe all the money I saved on Mil Spec gear would allow me to afford that 249... then we will see who does the chewing. ;D

I figured since I had tacked up the backdrop and had the camera out I would dust off my other .22s They are a Savage Model 5 (circa 1930's / no serial numbers) and her descendant, a Savage Model 62 (circa 2000). The Model 5 was bought by my grandfather right after my father born in 37 (my parents had me in their 40's :o); although It was bought used, so it is likely older than that. It ended up being my dad's first rifle that he drug around "pre-freakout California" as a boy. It was my first rifle as well, and I took decidedly better care of it. I've had her for 25 years, since I was 6; we can kill small game in our sleep. I moved on to bigger guns, but when the job was varmit acquisition or accuracy showmanship (showing off, lol) I got out the Model 5. Aside from cleaning and polishing the feed ramp, there has yet to be one failed or seriously worn component, and I've fired many, many thousands of rounds during my own ownership. Technically, it belongs to my daughter since May 2009. The Model 62 was purchased in 2000 because I was storing all my firearms in Missouri after some complicated moving/ housing changes, and I got pissed off about some opossum... My ex wife never really knew me as the hunter or gun enthusiast when we met, and she thought I was playing around when I bought it and fitted it with the laser. That night I killed an opossum that was getting in our vents, and four more in the following 2 years (living near a creek has it's ups and downs). I always keep on mag full of shotshell for dispersal, and another full of hollow point; for disposal. It's a fine rifle, but I only used it temporarily as a stand in for the Model 5. The laser does give it a slight edge for night time duty. Technically, it belongs to my stepson as of Dec 2005 Fun side note, the "ex" was a city girl and made the mistake of coming out to watch once. When I had to deliver a final shot, I told her to stand back but she only moved a foot or so. Ended up with blood spray on herself, and for lack of a better term: freaked. the. fuck. out. I just chuckled again, ten years later ;D Alright, alright, on with the pictorial already!! Opening the sarcophagus (ok, so I cleaned them yesterday, but they were stored for like 5 years before that) Look, they're rubbing their butts together! :laugh: The wood is rough and worn, but I am reluctant to repair anything. These are dings and dents my ancestors put in her, beyond taking basic care of the stock, I leave her be. Just a nice shot of them together.. notice how similar they look after all this time, even the curves of the stock and foregrip. When the bolt is removed from the M5, the curves on the rear of the receivers match. Looooong guns lol, notice the elevation is set 2-3 clicks higher on the M5. Not to ring my own bell, but it's not cause the barrel is droopy. I can traditionally reach out well beyond 100yd with her, though my eyesight really has gotten worse over the years Another (fuzzy) look at how similar the Savage has remained over the years.. makes me want a 10 round magazine on the Model 5 ;D And the M62 takes the stage! Laser is set to 25yd for that night time work I mentioned. It's the distance my typical headlamp will reach. And finally, some receivers. The Model 62 weighs about 3 pounds, her older sister weighs in at 5. Notice I have the shotshell mag installed. I don't necessarily want to kill or injure the strays and loose dogs around the neighborhood, the sting of the shot and the noise is more than enough.

Thanks! I really am excited about this rifle. After owning a Bushmaster AR for a short time, I am finding that I really like Sig's concept of the platform a little better. It certainly helped me decide to go with the Sig 556 over another AR this next christmas. While she's not the most powerful or expensive rifle I have owned, it is certainly the most fun to shoot, and I will admit tactical tinkering is just fun. I can adjust scope rings on my long rifles all day and it's not nearly as exciting as determining exactly which (weaver)rail number is best to provide the best flashlight coverage.

just for giggles: during my airsoft browsing I found an electric airsoft version of the Sig 522, which costs $375. I only paid $480.00 for the real version.. are people really that serious about hitting each other with rubber BB's? when I was a kid, we shot each other with daisy repeaters,used pine cones as projectile weapons, and life was good; albeit full of bruises. I'm all for reliving the tactical experience, I think, lol.. but that's a lot of money to spend on a rifle that wont even kill a squirrel.

I see some rifles equipped with their iron sights looking through a red dot, which is usually positioned halfway down the receiver. Is this effective? I can maybe see how it would provide an aperture effect, but it seems like it would be hell to line up quickly. Seems like it would be difficult to match the height of all three components. I do plan to try it out once I find a set of iron sights for the rifle, but in the meantime, Educate Me?

I thought England had made it nearly impossible to own "black rifles" and similar weapons. I know it's a little off topic, but what are the regulations over there? Met some Brits here in TX that love shooting clays like no tomorrow, but they said they had to jump through hoops to own shotguns when they were in the UK.

I keep finding certain products that appear on Airsoft websites as well as Hunting/sporting sites. While I can usually spot the plastic or "toy" versions of real hunting and tactical equipment, some items are making me wonder. For instance, some items like grips, fore rails, sights, slings/swivels, and bipods will show up on both types of website with the same part number. Yet the item is much cheaper from the airsoft company than from the hunting/tactical company. These items appear to be identical (same part number says it all), but am I missing something? Like a set of certain iron sights I have my eye on (pun intended) costs $90 at most retailers; but most airsoft companies are selling them for $30~40.00 Or identically numbered quick release sling swivels costing $30 from MidwayUSA and only cost $10 from Airsoft.whatever.com UTG and Magpul seem to be the most dominant manufacturers I have found with the same products on different types of gun, for largely inconsistent prices. Usually, I would see identical part numbers and assume they are the same, but with such a massive price difference between them, I am unsure.

lol, images are still too big, right click and "View Image" for the whole picture I fixed my handi-cam and took some new pics.. Nothing new about the rifle, just higher res images. enjoy! my current armament for the rifle Just a close up.. equipped with sport package and heated leather something: Opposite side with BDM drum (must have, want more) my kind of porn! Finally, my version of the official Sig promotional image for the 522. Original: My version: *shown with optional accessories :p

Only three things required to square away this nation's citizens (in regards to common decency and humility). 1. Legal Fisticuffs (close enough to dueling for modern standards) - As it stands now, it is illegal in all states to punch or simply slap someone across their face when they step out of line. Hell in most states it's illegal to even defend yourself from being hit (but that's another thread). Just give judges and juries the ability to decide if the force was warranted- how many people would keep acting a fool with the constant threat of their fellow Americans giving them a wake up call in the form of a fat lip? 2. Pants down, public ass spankings- build a public stage, bend a man over a barrel, whoop his bare ass with a belt or paddle- repeat as necessary. The sheer embarrassment of possibly getting licks publicly before getting sent to bed with no dinner would deter a lot of the stupid little annoyances that plague us daily. If the subject appears to enjoy the spanking, see Proposition 1 (fisticuffs). 3. Public Execution- and I don't mean some limp wristed, humane form of execution, I mean firing squad, hanging, electrocution, or even suffocation. Something painful and ghastly, horrid to the eyes and heavy to the mind. How many people would think twice about their actions after seeing a man publicly suffocated? A frikkin ton of them is how many. The ends should justify the means, with exceedingly painful execution based on the severity of the crime. With laws like these in place, this crackhead down the street would not be as apt to take advantage of the elderly victim. He's not afraid of an elderly invalid, so he thinks he has a day pass allowing him to walk all over him. Now imagine any given family member or neighbor had the legal right to stand up for that old man; which might include the use of force to remove the crackhead and deter further criminal efforts. Leave it to the judge and jury to decide whether the actions were justified; and have strong repercussions for those that would abuse this right. This way people aren't just going around attacking each other blindly. So in the case of this crackhead, you would have to make damn sure your story held up before the judge, and that your use of force was justified and of a proper level; but ultimately, you could conceivably grab him by the scruff of the neck and throw him to the curb. As it damn well should be. Perhaps I have an idealistic view built by John Wayne and Audie Murphy defending women's honor and weaker citizens. As it stands today, American legislation is so restrictive in it's aim at "Zero Tolerance," and the people are so desensitized and namby pamby... I dunno, it's more complex than I can exemplify in a single post- but it just aint right. Afterthought- While I am markedly embarrassed to admit it, I have found myself in the situation where I sat on my hands rather than render aid (in the form of violence). Not because I was afraid to get hurt, but because I was afraid to have the words "assault and battery" on my permanent record. Something is seriously wrong when a crowd has the legal responsibility to stand back and watch a man drunkenly beat the hell out of his wife outside a bar on a busy public street- something horribly wrong.

You sir, seem to have an idea of how hard it is Not to slap a person with a leather glove. Make dueling legal, but require the use of flintlocks just like the old days. I would totally go "Aaron Burr" on some people.

I recently joined the Lone Star gun range in Lockhart, TX. While it is a public range, I have yet to see anything that worried me aside from that one guy with the Steyr. Otherwise it has been a very comfortable experience and a great family environment. Ranges are getting hard to find, so while I can afford membership to the Austin Rifle Club, I can't afford the 150 mile round trip often enough to warrant the membership; happy where I'm at anyways. Personally I was trained in marksmanship and hunting by my grandfather who was a WWII Marine rifle expert, and then later I served on the rifle team in high school NJROTC and NJOCS, so very strict regimen. I think more and more every day that prospective gun owners should be required to take a course with this type of instruction. I know it steps all over the second amendment, but a gun owner with no training is like a car without brakes or steering wheel, just an accident waiting to happen. lol, I remember my cousins and I being 5 or 6 and being required to clear the breech and present arms to my grandfather at the end of a session. It seems like that old man can trim hedges from 1000yds with a 80 year old enfield .308 8)

So the general idea seems to be that I can utilize any optic as long as I take into account the ballistics of the .22 in relation to the scope's reticule/mil dots? For instance, Mounted on a .223, a specific scope is worth 1/2" per click at 100yd with a standard mil formula. Situation Normal, and you can almost hit the bull before you even shoot the rifle by calculating the formula correctly (much love, spotters). or Mounted on a .22, wouldn't the wind/elev adjustment start counting for more or less, like 1" per click or 1/4" per click. If so, wouldn't this throw off the mil formula/ dots accuracy? Where one line or dot now equals something totally different than is intended. Just seems like something has to give with the scope marking and settings in relation to ballistics. I have three other scopes I would try, but all dovetail/modified mount for my older .308 and an SKS I used to drag around. Probably doesn't matter, since I am not trying to be an elite sniper with the rifle, just chew up some targets at 50 and 100 yards, and regrettably pop the occasional troublesome varmint. Ultimately, I just want to be as educated as possible on the subject, especially before I potentially spend hundreds of dollars on my optics package. This rifle deserves it, I think she's a sleeper with a 4x ACOG (clone of course :P ) for short work and a 10x for >100yd objectives. edit- Nevermind. The parallax concept, mentioned earlier, just now sunk into my thick head. ::) I understand now how I could create my own formula as well. Would this be different for every scope? Thanks guys, I just couldn't wrap my brain around it. Gonna go scope out some optics at midway!