M4rk Posted March 5, 2012 Report Posted March 5, 2012 where do u guys have ur set at? flush? all the way in? any pros and cons while having it on standard setting and using high velocity rounds?
techmike Posted March 5, 2012 Report Posted March 5, 2012 I had mine set in too far after I first got the rifle, and the spring wore badly & got kinked. New spring was $12, and Umarex told me: "Standard ammo - the bolt (adjustment screw) should be flush with the slide housing, and in four complete turns for High velocity ammo." Someone has a picture posted that showed a destroyed buffer due to running high velocity ammo with it set to the standard position.
wobblinwheel Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 I think maybe the bolt spring setting may be determined by the age of your rifle. I get the impression that the bolt springs have changed over time (re-designed?). The first Umarex video said to adjust screw all the way in for high-vel. ammo. Then we were told by the factory to set them 9 turns in for H. V. NOW it's four! Go figure.....
M4rk Posted March 6, 2012 Author Report Posted March 6, 2012 i think ill set mine to 3 1/2... LOL thanx guys
mcheath Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 So I wrote Umerax and got this reply today."If the gun is functioning fine I wouldn't adjust it. But if you do starthaving feeding, extracting, or misfires issues then adjust the bolt speed by turning the allen head set screw 9 full revolutions to the right. If you have any other questions let me know."
techmike Posted March 28, 2012 Report Posted March 28, 2012 That what was what mine was set to, and it ruined the spring.
techmike Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 Interesting. Yeah, it is. Since then, I run it at 4 complete turns in, with high velocity ammunition and zero issues.
busta00 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 Thanks for the tips. im gonna try 4 turns. Had misfires and extraction problems first time i took it to the range. Will let you guys know if it works
M4rk Posted April 22, 2012 Author Report Posted April 22, 2012 i think if its set on too tight, while u shoot standard velocity and sumtimes with hv ammo... the bolt comes back too fast and doesnt give the bullet to properly chamber... so it pinches it... thats wut ive noticed... so i did 4-5 full turns, since then, i had no issues.
cmscoltm4 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Hi guys I'm new to the forum . I just bought A ISSC MK 22 and it wouldn't fire at all the store I bought it from took the gun back and let me trade it on a colt m4 carbine .after 250 rounds of cci mini mags and 250 rounds of cci blazer I have not had 1 probelm with the gun functions perfectly . I belive I have an updated version . The saftey is 90 degress and dust cover works also the buffer does not fall out and the bolt realse won't fall out either. The first time I feild stirped it and cleaned it i noticed the bolt spring was turned in for high volocity . After my issc nightmare this gun is a caddy!! lovin it :)
techmike Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Outstanding! I think they are fine rifles. :thumb:
dan01 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 My C 4 eats everything but Remington Gold.....I have never had to adjust the bolt speed.
mcheath Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 My M4 remains rock solid and I've only had one instance of a FTE, nor have I touched the bolt speed adjustment. Glad you are enjoying yours.
Plinkster Posted October 2, 2012 Report Posted October 2, 2012 I had mine set in too far after I first got the rifle, and the spring wore badly & got kinked. New spring was $12, and Umarex told me: "Standard ammo - the bolt (adjustment screw) should be flush with the slide housing, and in four complete turns for High velocity ammo." Someone has a picture posted that showed a destroyed buffer due to running high velocity ammo with it set to the standard position.That would by link here. http://tactical22.net/forum/colt-umarex-general/broken-bumper-on-colt-22-m16/Now I'm really baffled. My manual says to screw it in all the way. I thought I did that the first time, not wanting to damage anything I was a little cautious. After about another 1,500 or so rounds I see I have another broken bumper. I adjusted the spring in about another 3 full turns or so. It keeps going, didn't stop; however, I can really feel the difference in spring tension on the bolt. I may back it off a bit if it misfires.BTW – I ordered two bumpers to avoid shipping costs for when it happens again. $20 out the door I think he said $7/each. I think Umarex should make the bumpers out of brass or aluminum.
techmike Posted October 2, 2012 Report Posted October 2, 2012 Hey Plinkster, Back when I got my Colt, the owners manual did not specify a setting for the bolt speed, and stated not to adjust it unless you had problems with a certain type of ammo. There was a Colt u-tube vid that specified 9 turns in, so I did that, and the spring was eventually destroyed. I run it at 4 turns in from flush, per email from Umarex Service Dept, as I only use high velocity ammo. Have not had any further issues. FWIW, the internals of this rifle are made from Zamak - which is a zink alloy. I think if the bumper was made of a harder material, it would be the Zamak parts that would break. You might want to think about ordering a new spring - it just might be weak, which would allow the bolt to impact the bumper. My 2 cents.TMPS - Your manual says to screw it in all the way??? How weird. I just checked the manual that is posted here, and it is like mine as far as the bolt setting is concerned, page #19. Can you scan that page in yours and post it?
wobblinwheel Posted October 2, 2012 Report Posted October 2, 2012 I ordered a new spring for mine a month or so ago, and it is DEFINITELY stronger (stiffer). I highly recommend you getting a new one. The original "cleaning" video on the Umarex/Colt website (used to) say turn the screw all the way in for Hi-velocity ammo, and all the way out for standard. I'm almost sure the springs were weaker back then. With the old spring, I used to set the spring at 4 turns when shooting Aguilla Sub-sonics with no problems. With the new spring, they will "stovepipe" at that setting. Have to back the spring all the way out to shoot them now.
Plinkster Posted October 4, 2012 Report Posted October 4, 2012 Thanks TM and wobblinwheel (WW)! Great input.TM - My pdf manual from last year does not say that. I can't remember if it was from the cleaning video or my hard copy manual that's a couple years old, I'll have to dig it out. I do remember it was all in or out, I thought that was strange. I will readjust everything to about 4 turns in from flush.I also understand your bumper material advice, good point.WW - Good idea on the spring I'll order one. How much did that set you back?
techmike Posted October 4, 2012 Report Posted October 4, 2012 Goodluck plinkster - I think my new spring was $12. TM
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