Michigan Joe

It is certainly true that different guns react differently with the same brand ammo. Could the problem of what seems to be a higher number of FTF/FTE be the result of the increase in the quantity of ammo fired by the average Tactical .22 shooter over the average bolt action shooter/hunter? I know that I shoot more rounds in a day now than I used to in several years as a hunter. There were many days that I went into the woods and never fired a shot. The guys who have been consistent target shooters would be better able than guys who only hunted to make the comparison between present day ammo and ammo made ten or 20 years ago. Of course, shooting the razorback would bring any deficiencies out in the open.

These two seemed to be in charge.

We were told that they would be out of town for Thanksgiving.

My friend owns a pawn shop and buys and sells long guns. I picked up a Winchester lever action .22. They were made between 1963 and 1992. I saw an old ad in which this rifle, in 1963, sold for a list price of $58.95. There were similar rifles in semi automatic and a pump. I saw this gun once before and just liked it's "modern" styling. I dropped out the trigger assembly and cleaned out the powder crud and took it out back. I ran about 120 rounds through it and had quite a bit of fun. I realized that this was the first time that I fired a lever action. Felt like a cowboy! The gun operated very well and shot true. I even used Winchester ammo. It was a nice half hour. This is a situation in which I got to own and shoot a gun that I could not have afforded as a kid wandering the woods. My gun back then was a Sears/Marlin bolt action. The Winchester 250 is a nice handling gun. The receiver looks like it is aluminum, or some other metal than the steel barrel. But it feels solid and well balanced. Perhaps as the tactical .22's soak up more of rhe market these older guns will sell for attractive prices and let us experience guns we used to drool over as kids.

How did it go? Do you shoot 'em one-handed?

Hello, and welcome from Michigan!

Guys on other forums ate claiming that the Sig 1911 22 is a rebranded GSG 1911 from ATI. Does it look that way?

I heard there were modifications that could be made to smooth out the trigger pull on the M22. Mine is really rough. I don't know if that will improve with time. Dies anyone know of these modifications? Oh, one thing that I did in desperation that I forgot to mention was use synthetic motor oil instead of gun oil when I cleaned the M22 last. I never did that before with any weapon. I use that oil on the gears of old radios to get them moving smooth. Well, it certainly did not hurt it or gum up anything I can see. Of course, I used just a light coating.

Yes, you're right. It was the Ruger. Boy, a lot of new 1911's. Bet there's more made in the next 100 years than the first.

How is this gun? Worth buying? I don't know whether to get a Neos or a Buckmark Practical. Or rather, which one to get first.

I had been a little upset over my ISSC M22 pistol because it jammed a lot. Today, however, when I took it out and put at least 200 rounds through it, there were ZERO jams. No failures to feed and no failure to fire. I used Blazer uncoated roundnose ammo. I took it out two weeks ago and it did jam a couple of times. I had not cleaned it since, yet it worked perfectly. I have probably put through at least a thousand rounds through it, maybe 1500. It certainly feels like a different gun. Everything feels smoother. In addition, I had been having trouble hitting the target with it. I took care of that by adopting the hints contained in the U.S. Army pistol training manual that I posted on this site a few weeks back. My accuracy improved greatly by studying the basics set out in the training manual. I don't think I'll ever be shooting quarters out of the air by moonlight any time soon, but I am beginning to see what might be charitably classified as a "group" on the target. By the way, 70 degrees and sunny in the Great Lakes State today. Perfect shooting weather, as is every day.

I thought that was the gun that was shown on a magazine cover, an action that got Sig a little disturbed.

I decided to keep it. Guess the demand for the MK22 must have dropped, eh?

I completely agree. Great ammo. They stopped selling it at the Walmart near me and started to sell the 501 under the Champion brand.

What I suspect is that Thunderbolts have changed. Perhaps they cheapened the final product.

Nice!

Could you explain about the new Kimbers?

Given that Remington is the ammo that most people on this website avoid, the group of companies is not run by gun guys, and they seem allergic to new products, is it any wonder that nobody is interested in their stock?

I put an ISSC Mk22 on layaway at Bud's. It's still there with a few dollars left on the tab. I have decided that I will pass it by. I paid $475 for it, free shipping. I'd like to sell it for $400. I'll just have Bud's ship it directly to your FFL holder instead of mine. So, $400 with free shipping, you get a brand new ISSC Mk22. If interested, you can contact me via the site or via my email which is on the profile.

Welcome! I started out several months ago looking at a Savage MKII, but got sidetracked by this bunch into these tactical .22's. I hope to still get around to the Savage, however. I am sure that you will find that the new .22's will make shooting more fun than without them. I know it has for me.

Nice to hear from you!

Well, there is only one thing to do. Buy more guns.

It is true that Ruger sells a lot of its rifles, but they seem to be putting out more new models lately. This is what is weird to me: If you go to look at guns on a website, say Buds, some guns, like the Buckmarks or some of the S&W's or that German 1911 .22 are always out of stock it seems. While others, on the other hand, are always on sale. In most industries, competition would drive the competition to offer a like product in quality. Yet, even though there are a ton of manufacturers, the same guns are always out of stock. It seems once they start to make a gun, they just keep on making it, regardless of whether it sells like they want it to.

Considering the whole purpose of this website, perhaps Marlin is feeling the results of not changing with the times. Sig, S&W, etc., have come out with new tactical type .22's, and there are even new gun companies selling rifles, such as ISSC. Even Mossberg slapped tactical stock pieces on its old entry level autoloader and squeezed some more sales out of it. Marlin did not even try Rather, its owner, Remington did not even try. As is clear from the actions of the guys on this website, the demand for new, quality products is out there. The prices we pay are sometimes triple what some Marlin .22 rifles sell for. Even they should be able to make money selling .22's for four to five hundred dollars a gun. Come on Marlin, open a Brownells catalog, for Pete's sake.

Techmike, was that JC Higgins made by Marlin? I had a JC Higgins that I used all the time.