Tal

Well another Saturday has come and gone, and another couple of hours wasted chasing ammo. Made this same trip (2 Academy's and 2 Wal Marts) the last month. Besides the 100 rounds of 45 ACP I picked up a couple of weeks ago. Nothing. Academy is putting all their ammo at the customer service counter in the front of the store. They had about 10, 50 round boxes of 22LR that they were selling at $3.00 a box. And Tula at that. :o Wally World is a ghost town. I'm glad I've got a pretty good stockpile, but not enough where I feel good enough to get back into my 1000 rd or so every couple of week habit. Could sustain it for a while, but leary about shooting paper. Have been shooting skeet. 12 guage seems to in abundance and prices are the same. The pistol range has been calling me, but so far I resist the call ;D

Hang in there Drew..Let us know if you need anything. Glad you still have power.

Keep up the fight Amsurff 8)

:beer: Uncle Ted tearing him a new one is my favorite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkzZ-GoEC54

I hear ya. When I got back into shooting a couple of years ago, I was shooting at 10 and 17 yards, and realized I needed a lot of work on trigger, recoil, sight picture etc...That's when I backed the targets back to about 3 yards like you're talking about. I studied stances, trigger control, sight alingment, target reaquision, etc..at that short distance. I fired a LOT of rounds at that distance. Sure I didn't look as sexy as the guy, in the next lane, just blasting away and hitting nothing, but after taking my time, between shots and analyzing, Accuracy came around. And surprise, surprise, so did my accuracy at distance. Before all this crap started, and you could get a brick of 22 anywhere, anytime, we have 1" steel plates set up at 20 yards on a tree at my range. 10 plates set to one side, and when you get a good hit it swings the little steel plate to the other side. I could hit 50% of them or better and swing them around to the other side in a 10 round clip before this started. What kills me is my son, with those young eyes and steadier hands, generally hits about 80% of them. That little #%$&^!@$% ;D The thing about short distances is it does rebuild the fundamentals and a good place to start after a layoff, which since the shortage has hit it's been Christmas week since I been to the range. But from the videos and tv programs I've watched, if you have an attacker with a knife at 3 yards, you have really got to be quick on the draw to get him before he closes the gap and gets you. I practice my concealed draw at those short ranges.

congrats!!! Nice to hear some places are getting some ammo. I'll keep making my Bi-weekly trips to the box stores to look. :thumb:

Even Obama has to shoot shotgun shells. Bet he can't find any pistol or rifle rounds either. ;D

One little tip from a NEWBIE as well. If you can't hit a 1 inch bullseye at 7 feet, everytime you pull the trigger, then there is no reason to shoot at targets 20 yards away. ;D

Absolutely nothing will happen, besides this temporary panic at the retail level. Went by my local Academy last night, on the off chance they might have some 22lr. No luck. But there was a young lady buying a S&W 22. Even though she had NO ammo, and the store had NO ammo. She bought it anyway , just to have it. Go figure.. I guess she's going to use it as a club :confused: Most of the politicians know this is a single deciding issue for most gun owners. Infringe on my 2nd amemendment rights and I'll vote you out. Don't care about Gay Rights, women in the military, affirmative action, etc.. but do not mess with my constitutional rights, as guaranteed by my forefathers. I listened to David Petzal on the radio this morning. Refreshing..(One of Field and Streams "The Gun Nuts") His feeling on Governor Cuomo's end run around the legisltaure from his blog at F&S. By David E. Petzal Among state legislatures, New York’s ranks among the worst. For general sloth and indolence it is excelled by few, and for corruption, its only equal is probably Illinois. However, several weeks ago, Governor Andrew Cuomo (“Please allow me to introduce myself, I’m a man of wealth and taste.â€) galvanized this curious bunch of life forms into passing what he proudly calls the strictest gun law in the United States, albeit he did it by circumventing the normal legislative process, and there’s a chance it will be struck down by the courts. But in the meanwhile, residents of the Empire State are stuck with its grotesque provisions. Among them are some real howlers, such as the one that allows owners of 10-shot magazines to hang on to them, but forbids loading them with more than 7 rounds. As we are well aware, a gun with 7 shots in the magazine is not a menace to public safety, but one with 10 shots is. And I have no doubt that the next lunatic on the way to his way to a massacre will be careful to load no more than 7 cartridges into whatever firearm he has on hand. But the really interesting part of this mess concerns the disposition of the many rifles now classified as assault weapons. Their owners must register them with the police (I believe it is the State Police.) by April 14, 2014. I’ve heard that there are a million ARs in New York State, and that the figure may be 3 million, although that seems high. In any event, there are a lot, and a great many of them are untraceable. So the question arises, what if hardly anyone registers their ARs? Let us say the April 14 deadline arrives, and 2,037 people have complied with the law. Or 10,132. This means the gun-owning public has flipped off the Governor, and the Gun Law. What then does Governor Cuomo do about it? He could order the police (Local? State?) to visit the homes of all known gun owners, and if an AR happens to be present, charge them with a misdemeanor and probably confiscate the rifle. But then, what does this do about the hundreds of thousands of untraceable guns? The complications that would arise from police visits and confiscations are wonderful to contemplate—thousands and thousands of previously upstanding citizens would be processed through the courts, fined, and possibly jailed. The effect on Governor Cuomo’s political career would not be good. He reportedly has presidential ambitions, and a record as the politician who ordered gun confiscation would not be helpful. Massive noncompliance is a very real possibility. Canada’s sweeping gun law of 1995 was a dismal failure because people simply ignored it; this in a country with far fewer people and far fewer guns. Governor Cuomo has a hell of a choice to make a year from now. He may have to either admit that his law has failed, or go ahead and enforce it and take the political consequences. Of course he was not one of the invited "Ones" when the Biden witchhunt was going on. As he said he was attending the SHOT show in Vegas and was too busy anyway, ducking all the mass murderers, rapists, racists and assorted criminals at the show. Which of course, as he pointed out is the majority of the gun owning public. (Tongue firmly in cheek while he was talking).. Great guy and a great sense of humor.

Good one!!! ;D

SWEET 8)

Even my prized, beat up, dilapidated JC Higgins 410 single shot.(Manufactered in the 20's, And I have killed many a squirrel with that little gun), and given to me by my grandfather, when I was 13 would be illegal. I still take it to the range from time to time. Not much of a gun, but it brings back old memories. :beer: And congrats Amsurff on your involvement!!! 8)

She's a moron. Of course she came to prominence as the 1st woman mayor of SF after Masconi and Milk were shot. After that she became the darling of the liberals. But as far as any knowledge about firearms she's a numb nuts. It's baffling to me how someone can propose to ban something that they don't know a thing about. :confused: Kind of like banning reading because you don't know how to read.

I've seen a few "Deals" like that as well. Luckily I'm pretty well stocked, but I will remember these guys when the current hub bub settles down, and will hope that those 550 round boxes of 22 lr, that they have priced at $50.00 sit on the shelves and gather dust in the near future. Where is the price increase coming from? The manufacturers? The Wholesalers? or on the retail level. I wouldn't thing the cost of manufacturing 22lr has tripled in the last month, so I smell a little price gouging. :confused:

Sounds like a fun guy to have over for your super bowl party.. ;D

And the media seems to find the less articulate, emotionitive to interview. If you are articulate and can lie, you can be Hillary, or Sharpton. It will be interesting to see the congressional judicial meetings next week when Wayne LaPierre and Mark Kelly (Gabby Giffords husband) both testify next week. I would presume Wayne will be highly articulate, non emotional, and that the Anti-Gun nuts (Who are just as crazy as some of the extremists on the pro-gun side.That's why they're called extremists) will be on him like a pack of dogs. And what will be more maddening for the left will be Mr. Lapierres unflappable poise. The NRA and it's leadership is outfront representing it's members and are doing one hell of a job IMHO.

I don't think too well especially with the gun control issue. That's kind of a one issue thing. If you're a gun advocate all other issues become meaningless. You vote for the guy or gal that supports the 2nd ammendment. The current administration knows this. Yet they keep trying to pick fights, instead of doing anything meaningful...(Like be a Leader).

Yeah he's an excellent IP lawyer and when I had the fabulous opprutinity to meet him I was not with Otis. That guy can ruin your whole day... ;D

BTW... You ever heard of Austin J. McGuigan? http://pview.findlaw.com/view/1966862_1 He has some interesting thoughts on IP law that I got to listen to about 20 years ago... ;D

LMAO is on to something Drew. The following is a letter from my congressman Steve Stockman. I think you'll notice a slight change of attitude between our legislators and the ones in your neck of the woods.. ;D STEVE STOCKMAN 36th District of Texas http://stockman.house.gov 326 Cannon Office Building (202) 225-1555 January 24, 2013 Mr. Tal Name and address changed to protect the innocent. ;D Dear Mr. Harrison: Thank you for taking the time to write to me. I really wish I could personally respond to everyone, but we are receiving literally thousands of emails and phone calls from folks like you. They are running 25 to 1 in support of my efforts to preserve and restore the original intent of the Second Amendment. If you want instant inside updates from the Capitol you may sign up at https://stockman.house.gov/contact/newsletter. The fact is gun bans and anti-gun laws have always lead to one thing – more gun violence. We owe it to innocent people to make this country as safe as possible. Sadly, in President Obama’s announcement every tragedy he mentioned was either in a state that aggressively restricts the right to keep and bear arms or was in a location that banned guns completely. The White House announced they will use Executive Orders to infringe upon the God-given right to keep and bear arms protected by the Second Amendment from government intrusion. Among the Executive Orders issued are tracking of your firearms, which creates a de facto national gun registry, and a White House demand for laws regulating the private transfer of firearms. In other words, if you give your son his first hunting rifle, you may face a prison sentence if you fail to get approval from the government. Those proposals, along with others floated by the White House as presidential decrees, are cutting attacks on your right as a peaceable person to keep and bear arms for your defense. The ability to defend one from aggressors is a basic human right. My staff is reviewing the Executive Orders. Should President Obama issue Orders infringing upon your basic human right, I am prepared to fight back with peaceable legislative force. >> I will lead the fight to defeat the President’s dangerous legislative proposals. >> I will seek legislation overturning the Orders. >> I will seek legislation barring funds to enforce the Orders. >> I will seek legislation to cut White House funding should the President issue and enforce such Orders. >> I will support legal efforts to overturn the Orders in court. I ask you to contact your representatives in the House and Senate at House.gov and Senate.gov and politely urge them to support efforts to overturn or defund any proposed executive actions and to defeat the President’s dangerous legislative proposals. Now, I would hope those measures are enough to either deter President Obama or thwart his efforts. However, if they do not or are unsuccessful I will consider speaking with my colleagues and filing articles of impeachment. Impeachment is not something to be taken lightly. It is a grave and serious undertaking that should only be initiated in a sober and serious manner. It should be reserved only for most egregious of trespasses by the President. I would consider using Executive Orders to engage in attacks on a constitutionally-protected right and violating his sworn oath of office to be such a trespass. The President cannot issue executive orders depriving the people of full access to an enumerated constitutional right. I do not think it will come to that. The President is not an absolute ruler, and his actions and orders can be checked and balanced by the Congress and the courts – if the Congress is willing. That is why I ask you to please contact your elected representatives at House.gov and Senate.gov and politely urge them to support legislative efforts to overturn and defund the president’s Orders, and to defeat his legislative proposals. The right to keep and bear arms is a basic human right that has kept us free for over two centuries. With a vigilant citizenry eager to contact their elected officials and make their voice heard, it will continue to be that way. In the meantime, I encourage you to sign up for my free newsletter. It will give you instant inside updates from the Capitol. You may sign up at https://stockman.house.gov/contact/newsletter. Sincerely, STEVE STOCKMAN Your Member of Congress C'mon down buddy. I'll teach you how to say Y'all and Aint. And such catchy phrases as.. "That damn pick up of yours is so sorry it wouldn't pull a sick whore off a toilet".. And the ever popular "That's true like a pigs ass is pork" ;D

Way to go Drew!! :thumb: It has got to be tough living in that state.

In response to Mr. Blumenthal A downloadable PDF from the head of my range Mr. Charles Cotton. An all around friend of the NRA and the rights provided by the 2nd amendment. Here's his website http://www.cottonfamily.com/ And downloadable pdf he sent out to all members. 5253_c409fde720921dcabb50f2cdb784cf15446c8413.pdf

And I agree with him. http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/22/technology/groupon-gun/ Pretty articulate fellow this Gunshop owner "CarGill" Link of his shop below http://centraltexasgunworks.com/ To help him out I went ahead and ordered one of his "Annoy a liberal. Buy a gun T-shirts". Since there aint no bullets to buy, may as well buy something. ;D

This is interesting... Breaking News from the "Hartford Courant". If it's like this everyday, I'd say if anything you need MORE armed citizens in CT. http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/

You have got to be kidding..Geez..